Angie Reed Garner ([info]angiereedgarner) wrote,
@ 2005-04-21 12:32:00
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you can never know
Been struggling the past few weeks with alienation and a horrible sense of futility; don't quote me but in some ways the worst I can remember since my early twenties. The big "why". Worse because it feels impersonal-- it isn't about "me", but about the value of a life spent making art in general, at this time and place.

This struggle has been compounded by delayed grief, since this is the first stretch of time I've had to breathe since months before the election.

S. has been there for me-- and also made a strong case that I don't know that paintings don't support people in ways I don't see. He gave specific examples of people working for social justice who do own my work, and told me that it made a difference to him, personally, that my work helped these people to have a better quality of life. If you have known any activists and seen how they typically live, you might know the problem. It is hard to take care of yourself and build a life and a home that sustains you when your need for justice burns that hot. Progressives are painfully underfunded, radicals generally not at all-- and what money you do have, you know too much about where it came from.

I just got back from giving a brief artist talk to a visiting tour group of executives' wives. The kind of tour designed to convince them to buy homes in Beloit. Whatever I expected, the reality of these women was more complex and startling. I had the privilege of seeing a painting hit home and make meaning for/in people right in front of my eyes. Next time I struggle with despair that what I do is not worthy work, I'll remember today.

This was the painting:



Here's the wall card text, which probably meant more than the painting; most people get words quicker.

breaking ranks-- the whistleblower
oil on canvas
16” x 12”


I believe that we all come to personal crossroads at which we have to make decisions which reveal our character and have consequences. This painting is in honor of anyone who risks money and position to step up and do the right thing.

I know how these things go down. People take risks for change and make waves when they've got the support to do it, when someone close by (like your wife) says "you are doing the right thing and it is what I want and I also accept the risk to us and our family". And they don't take the risk if they don't hear this message.

I bet some of those women have been through some of these conversations already. It is a small painting but for them it popped off the wall-- I saw it happen, and one woman came and fetched me and wordlessly pointed.

We are all change agents. Everyone can make a difference.



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[info]neva_ivan
2005-04-21 11:31 am UTC (link)
Wow, thanks for an inspiring post and the wonderful painting. I didn't know you were going through such a tough time, but you do bring so much into so many people's lives, you should be proud of that.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-21 12:01 pm UTC (link)
I think one problem is that the more difficult or political my work is, the less likely I am to get feedback about it; people retreat into silence. And people who expect simple beauty from art are even provoked or disappointed. Sales of course are less.

And so the impression is that the work which is most meaningful and important to do is the most poorly welcomed and supported, and of little apparent purpose. I exhibit my political work at my own expense and rarely get to see that anyone is affected by it at all. This is the nature of the beast.

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[info]follansbee
2005-04-21 12:40 pm UTC (link)
I think sometimes it's hard for people to articulate what moves them about a piece (or, conversely, what may repel them also). I think when it comes to issues that are most important, people (in general) may be tentative in offering an opinion of value to you as an artist. I know "I like it" or "I don't like it" is sometimes hard to take as a painter/writer/sculptor/actor/etc. The question of art is no so much if someone likes it, but if they're moved (speechless..pointing)when they see it...and if it invokes within them the memory of something beautiful or painful or meaningful. Art is so objective in that sense, so personal.

I have been moved by many of your pieces. I hate that I can't recall the names of two, but two of them in particular moved me for reasons I can't quite articulate, way beyond "I like it"...The first is on your site, is predominantly white, with birds. The tree with the nest, the woman with her arm raised...it's exquisite to me, the embodiment of all things that I, as a fairly inexperienced painter, strive to portray in my work. The second painting was one you had up on ebay of a woman on a swing with a bird. I loved that painting...not just "loved" the painting, more horrible that I couldn't have it...like it was part of me.

Sometimes, there just aren't words. I feel that frustration sometimes, predominantly with my writing, when no one responds to something I post or offer them...and I can't tell if it's had the intended effect. Then I remember: it is intent and heart that counts.

Your intent, your voice, your spirit, your passion, your pain, the way you perceive the world is all so readily evident in your work, such that at times it can be painful to view. I believe this is the true accomplishment of the artist-as-visionary/prophet/warrior/poet.

My problem, currently, is that I don't have the money to back up my desire to gather these gems while they're available to me. Until I do, I will keep visiting your site and hoping one day the bird painting isn't sold. If it is, I hope the person who owns it can appreciate it in the same ways that I do...which is more spiritual than aesthetic...more something I can never tell you as a person speaking to an artist who knows something about my soul.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-21 03:32 pm UTC (link)
Please help yourself to the digital image of the work you loved. I'll post it here so you can snag it.

Silence in the face of art is as close as there is to proof that the art is working. In person, silence isn't a problem. I need to do better about commenting when something moves me because people can't see me looking and they can't know.

Thank you for all that you wrote.



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[info]follansbee
2005-04-22 05:52 am UTC (link)
Thank you so so much. :)

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:09 pm UTC (link)
You are welcome!

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she is very lovely and contemplative
[info]zeuxis
2005-04-22 03:26 pm UTC (link)
she really touches you especially when her spirit flys with the bird

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-21 03:34 pm UTC (link)
You hurt my feelings by commenting only to find fault with me. I don't mind being asked to look again at issues around appropriation and privilege, but the personal sense of hurt is too much. Please, no more.

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you have to believe in your work, no matter what
[info]zeuxis
2005-04-21 02:06 pm UTC (link)
just getting a quicky break from all this stress at work and caught your post - your work speaks louder and in many more different ways than only you can see - it is 3 dimensional - your symbolism and intellect show through every piece you create and even tho people don't tell you all the time - many get it - it's a joy

my favorite quote "Uncertainty is the essential, inevitable and all-pervasive companion to your desire to make art. And tolerance for uncertainty is the prerequisite to succeeding." Art & Fear
huggies ... ~peace ~Z

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Re: you have to believe in your work, no matter what
[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-21 03:36 pm UTC (link)
I think that quote is one all artists should have ready to heave at one another on nearly random occasions since it so obviously goes to the core. Thank you and thank you again.

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Re: you have to believe in your work, no matter what
[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:08 pm UTC (link)
I've been reading Thich Nhat Hanh and working on my tolerance for uncertainty.

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[info]_goingunder_
2005-04-21 02:12 pm UTC (link)

We are all change agents. Everyone can make a difference.


Yes.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:08 pm UTC (link)
YES!

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[info]rutemple
2005-04-21 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

and

Yes.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:07 pm UTC (link)
YES!

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[info]sissyhips
2005-04-21 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:07 pm UTC (link)
And thank you.

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[info]nine_ah
2005-04-21 04:44 pm UTC (link)
I admire you for your honesty. Your honesty within this blog and within your paintstrokes. I understand your thoughts of value and what if anything is a life of creating really worth and who cares about it if at all? I have wondered the same thing. I work for a company that makes plastic binders and boxes. I stress out and get all worried about plastic! Who cares? I find relief in my own artwork. Art that I don't have to take direction from with a client that tells me to do some God awful design and I create it just to please them - while inside I am about to burst! And then I get a comment about something I have done and I realize that this person was touched by something I did. That doesn't happen often, very rarely in fact but when it does, I question it, I don't believe it in fact...

I do know that you are very correct in that we are all change agents. You have been a strong influence for me by giving me a determination to create again. To go places that I am unsure of. To challenge myself. I am very, very thankful for you allowing me to come here and to learn from you. Not only what you offer up intenionally but from the entire process of the hits as well as what you perceive as your misses.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 06:06 pm UTC (link)
I guess we all want to do something important or valuable-- that is just human. Just taking care of ourselves/surviving is valuable but there needs to be more to life-- art matters. I think you have it exactly right.

I struggle with feeling guilty or ashamed every time I blog about having a hard time-- what do I have to complain about? But everyone wants meaning and purpose, that is just human. Doubt is part of the deal.

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[info]mcmillan
2005-04-21 08:06 pm UTC (link)
No effort is ever wasted. Emotions and thoughts and art reverberate and touch people in ways you'll never know. You and your work have definitely been inspiring to me. I also struggle with these issues and feelings of futility, and the rollercoaster back-and-forth of "it can't possibly help/every bit helps."

Whether it helps or not, it's how we stay human.

Thank you for sharing this.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:56 pm UTC (link)
It helps to know there are other people out there doing it too-- I love it that I have found you online and can follow your work!

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Robert frost and everything is art.
[info]fyreflye
2005-04-22 06:30 am UTC (link)
I sat up in bed last night after talking to my sister for the first time and I started thinking about patterns and beauty. It was weird. I was thinking how everything can be seen as something else, but mostly it is art. LOL. Science is an art, life is an art, death is an art, business is an art. Everything is art. So an artist is a unconscious teacher or guide to the soul. So in turn your work is very important. I know my brain is weird. LMAO. But in some strange sense it is true. Art is feeling. It doesn't matter what it makes you feel, but rather that it just does. I have seen emotionally crippled people open up to a particular art because it was so intense. WOW! I thought a picture or painting can do that. You bet your petuty it does. Narapa in Boulder deals with art therapy just for this reason. Anyways, my point is your art is healing. Healing you, me, others. I see something honest in your work that makes me think. I know what you are going through is hard. God knows my freakin heart is in my stomach and my stomach is in my brain and so on so forth. But I manage to go on...even with a smile. Everything ebs and flows, just like art. Or like robert frost sometimes the road less traveled by is the road worth taking. ((Hugs))

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Re: Robert frost and everything is art.
[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:59 pm UTC (link)
What a lovely comment, thank you. You meet the best people on the road less traveled.

I have seen that thing too of a shut down person both melting and opening in front of a piece of art.

I like what you pointed out-- I also see pattern everywhere-- maybe one way to think about an artwork (or an intellectual or scientific work, for that matter) is that it serves to sensitize people to certain patterns.

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Re: Robert frost and everything is art.
[info]fyreflye
2005-04-26 07:26 am UTC (link)
mmm yes very true. I like the way you think. : P

Keep up the amazing work. You are such an inspiration. TTFN

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[info]lightrain67
2005-04-22 06:57 am UTC (link)
...and where would our world be without bleeding hearts expressing themselves thru the arts? This, too, takes courage.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:54 pm UTC (link)
I am probably not the only person ever who got through personal rough spots by leaning on some long-dead artist.

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[info]lightrain67
2005-04-26 09:23 am UTC (link)
Nope ~ and to think ~ you're impacting people in the same manner ~ let's just hope the realization isn't posthumous. *that was a wise crack, k?*

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[info]dianawolf
2005-04-22 07:56 am UTC (link)
yes,
that is right.
I struggle with the whole point of living sometimes... i mean guilt from not being more comitted to some form of activism, never knowing whee my energy would be better spent, not getting my hands dirty so to speak.

but it keeps being brought hoome to me that contributions come in many forms, and not using more than you need, right livlihood, not contirbuting to the mess, spreading healing just in your presence can be enough. And the fact you can make a piece of art that touches and heals is so much a good thing.

thanks for this post.

xox

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:51 pm UTC (link)
I think it is a good struggle-- I have pushed my art as a result anyway because I realized that I really wanted to do more political work. I have slowly given the art the time I used to give to volunteer/activist stuff, which felt right even though I wonder if I'm going to hell (in which I do not believe!).

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[info]white_swan
2005-04-22 09:31 am UTC (link)
LOOOOOOOVVVEEE ITTTTT!

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:47 pm UTC (link)
:-))) Nice to see you.

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[info]meadowood
2005-04-22 11:10 am UTC (link)
Your work has certainly made a difference to me.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

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[info]left_fielder
2005-04-22 10:49 pm UTC (link)
"the value of a life spent making art"...that's immense.

Just keep making art. Don't worry about the philosophy. Your talent is amazing, your use of color and medium and graphic presentation...these are powerful tools. Just get on with it. You've got plenty to do.

I was recently able to get to the East coast, Boston, for the first time in my life. I went to the MFA and looked at a bunch of oils, Rembrandt and Monet, Cezanne and Picasso. You could maybe do work in that sort of league.

So get on with it.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:46 pm UTC (link)
I was so floored by this comment that it has taken me a couple of days to remember what one says in such a situation, i.e. thank you.

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[info]left_fielder
2005-04-25 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Well, I can see how it would be a surprising sort of thing. But I didn't say it for thanks, nor for the surprise. I said it because I saw some common things, here and there. I point to a place, and say, "I think you might go there."

Like I said: go ahead and go.

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[info]lucers
2005-04-25 03:50 pm UTC (link)
wow. that gave me goosebumps.

i keep meaning to tell you how much i loved your artist profile on EBSQ. especially the quote by your mother about being a "bad artist"

i find you really inspiring.

thanks Angie.

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[info]angiereedgarner
2005-04-25 05:43 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. Mom corrected me after she read the profile that she didn't say "bad artist", she said "mediocre artist". ;-)

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